Bruce Lee E-Book

Fiaz Rafiq

• Herausgeber: Arena Sport
• Kategorie: Sachliteratur, Reportagen, Biografien
• Sprache: Englisch

Seitenzahl: 678

Veröffentlichungsjahr: 2020

Beschreibung

Labels such as 'icon' or 'legend' are rarely attached to one individual to the degree that they are to Bruce Lee. He only made a handful of films, yet four and a half decades after his untimely death at the age of 32, the Little Dragon's influence on culture is as strong as ever. Named among Time magazine's 100 most influential people of the 20th century, Lee wasn't just an actor and martial artist, but a director, inventor, husband, father and philosopher. His martial art, jeet kune do, is still practised around the world, while UFC champions credit him with inspiring the growing sport of mixed martial arts. His films kick-started a global kung fu boom and retain the power to awe today, while his thoughts – collected in a series of books from Lee's own notes – still inspire. Bruce Lee: The Life of a Legend is a unique oral biography that combines the memories of Lee's original students, close friends, co-stars and colleagues – those who knew him best – to provide a candid view on the action movie star adored by millions, capturing the essence of a complex man in a way no straightforward narrative ever could. Further, for the first time ever in print, legendary professional boxing, bodybuilding and MMA champions and personalities from the motion picture industry pay homage to Lee, giving a blend of unique perspectives on a man who changed the face of their respective sports.

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BRUCE LEE

THE LIFE OF A LEGEND

PRAISE FORBRUCE LEE: THE LIFE OF A LEGEND

‘There have been hundreds of books on Bruce Lee since his shocking death in 1973, including my own. However, Fiaz Rafiq’s oral history still punches and kicks into new territory’ – Alex Ben Block, The Hollywood Reporter (Former Editor) & Showbiz Historian

‘An impressive collection of insights into the life of a cultural icon. Rafiq’s book would be a valuable resource for anyone wanting to know more about Lee and his impact on the lives of others’ – Paolo Bandini, The Guardian

‘Thought-provoking, enjoyable and fascinating interviews’ – Tris Dixon, Boxing News

‘Interesting . . . fascinating insights’ – Alastair Good, The Daily Telegraph

‘An excellent insight into Bruce Lee’s influence on some of today’s top stars – and a new perspective on the man himself’ – Joel Snape, Men’s Fitness

‘Provides a unique comprehensive view of a martial arts legend. What makes the work stand out from other books written on Bruce Lee is its exhaustive list of primary source material. This is no compilation of recycled interviews, but fresh reflections on the life of the Little Dragon. These raw interviews provide the reader with insights into different stages and areas of his life . . . If you thought you knew Bruce Lee, think again!’ – Jamie Clubb, Martial Arts Illustrated

‘Bruce Lee may be dead . . . but his undoubted influence certainly lives on. This publication is packed with very informative interviews and information of the utmost interest to people . . . I have no hesitation in thoroughly recommending it’ – Kevin Francis, The Daily Star

‘Unique . . . a fascinating read’ – Steven Beale, FHM

BRUCE LEE

THE LIFE OF A LEGEND

FIAZ RAFIQ

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CONTENTS

ACKNOWLEDGMENTS

FOREWORD BY DIANA LEE INOSANTO

PREFACE

PART ONE: THE LIFE

CHAPTER ONE: ORIGINAL STUDENTS

Jesse Glover

James Demile

Patrick Strong

Doug Palmer

Joseph Cowles

George Lee

Leo Fong

Bob Bremer

Jerry Poteet

Larry Hartsell

CHAPTER TWO: FRIENDS

William Cheung

Hawkins Cheung

Greglon Lee

Wally Jay

Leon Jay

George Dillman

Jhoon Rhee

Joe Lewis

Hayward Nishioka

Diana Lee Inosanto

CHAPTER THREE: CO-STARS AND COLLEAGUES

Bill Ryusaki

Peter Mark Richman

Marilyn Mason

Lou Gossett Jr.

Robert Chua

Ted Thomas

Jon T. Benn

Ing-Sik Whang

Chaplin Chang

Malisa Longo

Andre Morgan

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Ji Han Jae

Paul Heller

Lalo Schifrin

John Saxon

PART TWO: THE LEGACY

CHAPTER ONE: THE BOXING LEGACY

Sugar Ray Leonard

George Foreman

Ricky Hatton

CHAPTER TWO: THE BODYBUILDING LEGACY

Dorian Yates

Lenda Murray

Franco Columbu

Shawn Ray

CHAPTER THREE: THE MMA LEGACY

Randy Couture

Tito Ortiz

Frank Shamrock

Rorion Gracie

CHAPTER FOUR: THE MOVIE INDUSTRY LEGACY

Dolph Lundgren

John Woo

Jean Claude Van Damme

WORDS OF WISDOM: BRUCE LEE’S PHILOSOPHY

APPENDIX I - TED THOMAS INTERVIEW WITH BRUCE LEE

APPENDIX II - THE DAN LEE AND BRUCE LEE PHONE CONVERSATION

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

SOURCES & BIBLIOGRAPHY

This book is dedicated to Bruce Lee, who has had an indelible impact on me, igniting a light that made my dreams come true. Of course, without the will of God nothing is possible. So, thank you, God.

ACKNOWLEDGMENTS

A big thank you to the staff of magazines Martial Arts Illustrated and Impact: The Global Action Movie Magazine: Moira, Martin, Neal, John, Roy and especially editor Bob Sykes for giving me the opportunity and embracing me earlier on my writing career. The 15 years’ working relationship was fun. To all my editors at the national and international magazines and national newspapers whose help and support have contributed to my success in my professional writing career. Also, I would like to thank the personalities I have interviewed over the years from the sports and entertainment worlds – you are an integral part of the reason behind my success.

I would like to thank my personal long-time friends Diana Lee Inosanto; Royce Gracie; Rasheda Ali; Ron Balicki; Bob Sykes; Ronnie Green, Lance Lewis, Seyfi Shevket and Peter Consterdine for their countless years of support and encouragement.

I would like to thank Muhammad Ali’s brother Rahaman Ali, and Ron Brashear for their friendship and working relationship, and we made history.

I would like to thank my agent Charlie Brotherstone who believed in me and took me on as an author client.

Thank you to my own editor Joel Snape for editing the manuscript. A special thank you must go to Neville Moir and my editor Pete Burns at my publishers, Arena, for believing in me and the three book projects. Thank you Pete for all your hard work.

I would like to thank my friends in the industry, both in the USA and United Kingdom, who have enriched my life and supported me.

Last but not least, thanks to the man himself, Bruce Lee, for without you my dreams may never have manifested into a reality.

FOREWORD

When Fiaz first approached me about writing a Foreword about a man I grew up calling ‘Uncle’ Bruce, an honorary relative in the family that I was named after at birth – Diana Lee – I wasn’t sure what to expect. This man I only knew through the eyes of a small child. In my youth I was oblivious to the fact that Uncle Bruce was becoming a famous star, had numerous martial arts students and associates, traveled around the world, and was passionate about philosophy. I did know that he and his wife Linda had the coolest kids, Brandon and Shannon, to play with. The bliss of youth! Then life took a different direction in my family. What became apparent to me at the tender age of seven was that Uncle Bruce was an important figure in my father’s (Dan Inosanto) life, and that upon his death he would forever change the course of my father’s future. What little did I know how Uncle Bruce would also change the lives of millions of people around the world!

What Fiaz Rafiq’s book gives us (the reader) is an insight to a chronological ‘train ride’ into the life journey of a very special man and how the world’s journey continues without him, but his spirit is ever so present. Through Bruce Lee: The Life of a Legend, we witness the memories of this intelligent, persuasive, muscular, small-framed man, with a great Chinese accent I might add, create a vision for the future that would change modern martial arts history. We learn how this man broke down the barriers of racism, kicked his way through the walls of Hollywood discrimination, and bridged the worlds of East meets West. Even today, his influence, popularity and fan base still continues to grow.

After reading the diverse collection of interviews that Fiaz managed to put together (no small feat), I must say I was absorbed. There were people I heard about as my father raised me. They were people that I personally knew growing up, but I didn’t completely have all the dots connected to their relationship with Uncle Bruce. They were people I read about and even worked with in the entertainment industry. And then there were the tremendous athletes I have admired from afar, but had no idea how a man I called ‘Uncle’ Bruce would leave his inspirational ‘fingerprints’ on the minds, bodies, and souls of so many people. Some of the people highlighted may be controversial; some may be from unrelated fields, yet there is a common thread that flows through the fabric of what these people share together about one of the world’s most influential icons, and they call him ‘Bruce Lee’.

Diana Lee InosantoLos Angeles

PREFACE

When discussing the influence of celebrities and sports stars, artists and athletes, the terms ‘icon’ and ‘legend’ can sometimes be tossed around a little too easily. Not every individual who has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame or a highlight reel of physical accomplishments deserves these highest of accolades – but, however strict the criteria, it’s hard to argue that they can be more aptly applied to anyone in the last half century than the late Bruce Lee. In his life, he reinvented action cinema and forced a generation of martial artists to reassess the way they studied. After his death, his philosophical insights and perspectives on training continued to resonate around the globe. More than 45 years after his demise, he remains a perennial bestseller in DVD stores and bookshops, his image endlessly recreated on t-shirts and posters. And a new generation of ‘mixed’ martial artists have made his influence on the art of fighting clear, and legions of new fans continue to discover him through DVDs and YouTube, thrilling to fight scenes that have lost none of their raw appeal.

To perceive Lee as a cultural phenomenon is not an overstatement. He was a fighter, film star, martial arts and physical training innovator, teacher and philosopher. He not only succeeded in popularizing the martial arts on a global scale, but also redefined the action film genre, bringing a fresh theme to the table. His only Hollywood motion picture, released after his death, smashed box-office records around the globe, catapulting him to worldwide superstardom overnight and sparking a kung fu boom whose impact is still being felt today. Majoring in philosophy at the University of Washington, Lee developed a deep, profound ideology that prompted him to fuse Eastern and Western schools of thought to express himself and his concepts. This eclectic personal philosophy mirrored his fighting beliefs. His creativeness paved the way for the creation of the innovative, personal form of martial art he labeled jeet kune do (The Way of the Intercepting Fist). Lee’s thoughts on martial arts remain influential on upcoming fighters, and his prescription to ‘Absorb what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own’ seems almost prescient when looking at modern MMA. On 31 March 2007, Lee was named as one of history’s 100 most influential people by Time magazine, alongside figures like Sir Isaac Newton, Confucius and Buddha.

Over the years, many journalists and film critics have endeavored to explore what makes Bruce such an enduring cultural figure, with countless biographies on his life already available. Lee’s humble beginnings have been comprehensively chronicled, and his struggles with institutionalized racism, which prevented him from attaining the kind of success he craved in his early years in America, are well known. His own writings, originally only intended for his personal study, have been published and pored over by everyone from fight fans to philosophy students, and what documentary footage of him exists remains popular. But there are a number of facets and deeper layers to Bruce Lee, which defined him and yet often go unexplored.

My own journey with Bruce Lee reflects his crossover appeal. As far back as I can remember, I have always been intrigued by how the public and athletes from other disciplines perceive the martial arts master – not merely as an action star and martial arts exponent, but as a philosopher, a supremely talented athlete and a source of inspiration. During my career, in which I have interviewed elite individuals from the worlds of film, boxing, bodybuilding, martial arts and sports of all kinds, I’ve consistently noticed Lee’s name popping up as people list their inspirations. Having interviewed a plethora of UFC fighters and champions – who are no doubt the toughest athletes in the world – I was able to ascertain the magnitude of influence Lee had on these warriors of the Octagon, which was immense. I was always curious, too, to explore how A-list Hollywood actors and directors perceived the late martial arts star who redefined on-screen action.

Together, these factors all impelled me towards further investigating Lee’s influence. Above all, I sincerely also wanted to document the impact Lee had on these personalities outside the confines of the martial arts fraternity. To this end, in spring 2006, I came up with the concept of producing a documentary film. Bruce Lee: The Life and Legacy of a Master would pay the ultimate tribute to the action martial arts master, tell his life story, and allow me to showcase his influence on a much grander scale.

In autumn of that same year, I embarked on a journey to Los Angeles to conduct several rare and groundbreaking interviews on camera. Two years passed, and because of certain unsurpassable obstacles the dream project had to be shelved – until several years later, I happened to stumble upon another production company that was producing a Bruce Lee documentary, with a similar theme to the one I had conceived when I pursued my project. The footage I had obtained for my own documentary project was too valuable to waste and be buried forever, and so I made a contribution to the film by allowing producers to use several of the interviews I had shot. My own film project, I had to admit, would never manifest into a reality.

Here again, though, the passion, drive and determination ingrained in me by studying Lee’s own life helped me to refuse to throw in the towel. After much heartache and contemplation, I decided to channel my focus and energy in a slightly different direction, which would allow me to propagate the same message via the medium of print. There are lots of books on Bruce Lee, but none had been based around exclusive interviews with those who knew and worked with him, and interviews with public figures from sports and entertainment, athletes and actors. A tome packed with interviews with the people who knew Lee best, I felt, would do Bruce the justice he rightly deserves.

In the end, I was able to interview 50 personalities, leading to the book you’re holding now. In this first-of-its-kind book, you will discover exclusive conversations with Bruce Lee’s original students, friends, co-stars and colleagues. Those who knew him best give their candid views on the great martial arts master and action movie star adored by millions. Their memories and stories, I hope, capture him in a way no straightforward narrative ever could.

In part one, personal students recall moments of sheer amazement at their teacher’s feat. Some of Lee’s closest friends and training partners offer an intimate and touching look at this charismatic figure and complex character behind closed doors. Meanwhile, co-stars and colleagues reminisce on Bruce’s burning desire to reach his ultimate goal of becoming the first major Chinese star in the world.

In part two, we look at the enduring legacy of the Little Dragon. For the first time ever, you will discover exclusive interviews with some of the best professional boxers, bodybuilders, UFC fighters and personalities from the motion picture industry paying homage to the legend who continues to mesmerize athletes of every stripe. These personalities share their personal thoughts pertinent to Lee’s legacy, and explain why the status achieved by this diminutive-looking man is unlikely to be replicated. These revealing conversations exemplify Lee’s status as a symbol of inspiration and hope whose feats of strength and achievement are still looked upon as benchmarks by great athletes and fighters.

I hope that this oral biography will appeal not only to Bruce Lee enthusiasts – hardcore and casual alike – but to those beyond the confines of the martial arts fraternity. Bruce Lee’s legacy lives on and he continues to touch us even though his light was extinguished more than four-and-a-half decades ago. In closing, I sincerely hope you enjoy this book as much as I took pleasure in compiling it. You will discover Bruce Lee from a rather different perspective: a man who is a legend to legends.

PART ONE

THE LIFE

ONE

ORIGINAL STUDENTS

During his lifetime, Bruce Lee taught very few people, mostly in small groups and on a private basis. Shortly after his arrival in the United States in 1959, he started teaching a modified version of the wing chun system, which he later named jun fan gung fu – referencing his own given Chinese name. Initially he taught some friends in Seattle and eventually opened the Jun Fan Gung Fu Institute. Although when he later moved to California, his mantra of efficiency would lead him to form his own personal style, with principal focus on finding the most expedient solution to any possible encounter, the Seattle period is an historically significant part of Bruce’s time and development in the United States. Whilst studying philosophy at the University of Washington, he also worked at Ruby Chow’s restaurant to support himself, giving him very little free time until his school expanded enough to become his sole focus.

Some of the most prominent original students of Bruce Lee from this era included Jesse Glover; Taky Kimura; James Demile; Patrick Strong; Doug Palmer; Skip Elsworth; Leroy Garcia and Jo Cowles. Lee surrounded himself with street fighters – most of his inner circle students had some street fighting experience – meaning that he was testing his techniques against real-life situations from his early days in America. Jesse Glover was his first student and became a very close friend. Taky Kimura, his best friend and his assistant instructor, was his confidant right toward the end, when Lee finally achieved the fame he craved and became the biggest box-office draw in South East Asia.

In 1964, Bruce moved to Oakland, California, and opened his second branch of the Jun Fan Gung Fu Institute. This period – commonly known as ‘The Oakland Years’ – had a substantial impact on Bruce’s evolution as far as creative martial artist is concerned. Noticeable changes could be seen in his approach to fighting, development of his art and training methods. Changing his focus from limiting himself to a specific way and style, he transitioned into a contemplating martial artist in pursuit of finding the truth that tied multiple disciplines together. A friendship ensued between Bruce and James Yimm Lee who became Bruce’s closest friend, comrade, mentor and assistant instructor in Oakland. George Lee, Allen Joe, Leo Fong, Bob Baker and Howard Williams were also part of the core group which trained extensively with Bruce during these years.

In 1966, shortly after moving to the Los Angeles area, Bruce decided to open up his third and final branch of the Jun Fan Gung Fu Institute and did so in February of the following year. Located on 628 College Street in the Chinatown district, this secluded, anonymous-looking corner building had no signs outside to give any passers-by the faintest idea that this was a gym. It was far from a commercial martial arts school, but somehow the truly dedicated still found their way there. Some of the most prominent of the close-knit cadre of devotees from this period included Dan Inosanto, Ted Wong, Dan Lee, Jerry Poteet, Bob Bremer, Larry Hartsell, Richard Bustillo, Steve Golden, Pete Jacobs and Herb Jackson – even if the latter spent most of his time fixing his Sifu’s unique specialized training equipment.

Most importantly Lee’s students were carefully screened. Bruce preferred to sign up students with some previous elementary martial arts training because it was easier for the student to appreciate deeply what he was trying to convey. “I don’t want too many students in my organization,” Bruce once said. “The fewer students I have and the harder it is for anyone to join, the more it will give my club prestige and importance. Like anything else, if it’s too popular and too easy to join people won’t think too highly of it.”

Among the criteria Bruce set, the prerequisites when selecting a student included a person’s sincerity in learning and willingness to train hard. In addition to these qualities, persistent training and the student’s potential to extend himself in strenuous martial arts activity – which was fundamental to his jeet kune do philosophy – was equally imperative. Bruce was well aware of the fact that martial arts students fell short of reaching their potential because they lacked a true understanding of what was required to achieve their genetic potential. To this end he gravitated toward quality while quantity took second place. The individuals who were fortunate enough to train with the master were still only invited in on a trial basis. Unless the prospective student impressed their teacher, showing tenacious dedication along with marked improvement and cultivation in the first six months of enrolling, he would not be embraced as a full member of the Jun Fan Gung Fu Institute.

With its exclusive closed-door jeet kune do sessions, the Los Angeles Chinatown gym was one of a kind. Fancy uniforms and belts were disregarded; rather, the focus was on improving athletic attributes and technical precision. Bruce was interested in the most efficient way to use the human body for street-effective combat. Unlike other instructors of the time who were happy to employ a one size fits all approach, Bruce’s teaching method was always individualized according to his students – he didn’t like teaching large groups. His teaching method required constant, minute observation of the disciple. He even specifically prescribed supplementary training programs – articulately drafting the exercises on A4 paper – tailored to each individual’s needs. What separated Bruce from most other instructors at the time was that he was a hands-on coach – taking a similar tack to the one that might be seen in a boxing coach, but a very different one from the approach of traditional martial arts teachers of the time. He also placed a high emphasis on physical conditioning, which was unusual for the time. According to one of his premier disciples, he once remarked, “If you are lacking in your physical ability and conditioning, then you have no business in the martial arts.”

It wasn’t long before Lee transferred the teaching responsibilities at the Los Angeles Chinatown gym to his assistant instructor, Dan Inosanto. In 1969, Lee ordered his assistant instructors to dismantle his schools. Both Taky Kimura, who was teaching in Seattle, and Dan Inosanto were allowed to teach hand-picked, carefully screened followers in small private classes thereafter, while adhering to an admonition to keep the numbers low, but the quality high, something Lee believed was crucial to his precepts being passed down in a very personal way. Clearly he had no interest in commercializing his newly found art of jeet kune do, and he vehemently made this clear on more than one occasion to his disciples. Lee’s art was not meant for mass distribution, although a couple of individuals have gone on record proclaiming that Bruce was approached by an investor with a proposal to have a chain of kung fu gyms all over America when Bruce was appearing in the TV series Green Hornet and was seriously entertaining the offer.

The only three people to have ever been certified by Lee to teach his art are Taky Kimura from the Seattle period, James Lee from the Oakland period, and Dan Inosanto from the Los Angeles Chinatown period. The latter is widely acknowledged as Lee’s protégé.

Lee’s core group of personal students were more than mere passing acquaintances; they were close friends. Bruce’s ideals, his philosophy and his insights remain fresh and alive in the minds of his original students. In the following exclusive interviews, some of the most prominent disciples of the master from all three periods ruminate on their relationship with the greatest martial arts exponent of the century.

JESSE GLOVER

Jesse R. Glover was Bruce Lee’s first ever student in the United States and his assistant in the early years when Bruce was based in Seattle. They both attended Edison High School where a close friendship ensued, with Glover teaching Lee some of the judo that he was already expert in. After Bruce died, Jesse continued teaching his own unique style of non-classical gung fu privately. Globally known as being one of Bruce Lee’s top students from the Seattle period, Jesse is an integral part of the late master’s legacy as far as martial arts are concerned.

Q: Jesse, you were the first person in the United States to be accepted by Bruce Lee as a student, can you recall how and when you first met Bruce?

Jesse Glover: The first time I saw Bruce was at a demonstration in Chinatown. He did a form from the Southern praying mantis and an exhibition of dancing. Later, I discovered that we went to the same school. So, I used to walk in front of him and kick telephone poles thinking he would be curious and ask me something, but he didn’t. So one day I decided to walk up to him. I knew his name from the demonstration, nevertheless, I asked him if he was Bruce Lee. And he said yes. I asked him if he did gung fu, and he said yes. I said to him would he teach me. And he thought for a while and then asked if I had a place where we could train where no one else would be around. I said yes. So we walked to school, talked about gung fu and he showed me some stuff that day. We walked back that night. He asked me where I lived and I told him. He came down to my house that evening and started teaching me.

Q: Where did the personal lessons take place before he opened the school to the general public?

Jesse Glover: They took place in my apartment, on the street and at school. When he opened the gym there were only ten people and they paid ten bucks toward the rent. Any money that came in after that was going to go to Bruce. Some of the guys had to leave town to go to work, so we couldn’t afford it anymore. So then we trained outside. Most people who joined the group came from word of mouth.

Q: How would you describe Bruce’s personality?

Jesse Glover: He was like this: if he liked you, he liked you. And if he didn’t like you, he just wouldn’t talk to you. He liked to joke around. Even Ed Hart, who was his second student, they both had a sense of humor and they told a lot of jokes. He was a fun guy to be around. Like I said, if he liked you, he liked you. He liked to go to the movies and Jerry Lewis was his favorite actor. He liked to dance and draw. During the intermission we would practice a little, but during the movie he would be engrossed in the movie.

Q: Did he have a temper or was he a calm person?

Jesse Glover: Well, he was both. If you made him mad he’d get mad. But when I knew him and the people that were there, most of them really liked Bruce. Even the guys who didn’t care about gung fu liked Bruce’s personality.

Q: Were there any specific rudimentary guidelines which the students had to follow when he taught?

Jesse Glover: When I met Bruce he was pretty open, but later on he became more and more traditional so a lot of the guys dropped out. It became more and more like a traditional Chinese gung fu class.

Q: Bruce studied philosophy. Just how much was he engrossed in philosophy when he was residing in Seattle? Can you elaborate on Bruce’s philosophical goals?

Jesse Glover: He studied philosophy and related it to the martial arts. He practiced all the time and got pretty philosophical about it. He was interested in philosophy – Chinese philosophy mostly. He liked to talk about it. There was a guy named John Jackson who had studied Asian philosophy who was much better steeped in it than Bruce was. Bruce would misquote people sometimes and John would correct him. I guess his thoughts about philosophy were all tied up with his gung fu. He thought that somewhere in the philosophy he was going to find the keys to gung fu. And he loved to say certain things. He loved words so he would play with words and stuff like that. Most of the guys who were in the first group were pretty intelligent and well read. They weren’t all that concerned about what Bruce said about philosophy unless he talked about fighting. When he started talking about fighting my ears were wide open. Now all of the stuff, such as his quotes and sayings, later on I found a lot of it came from Wong Shun Leung, who was his primary gung fu teacher back in Hong Kong.

Bruce was like a young guy who discovers literature and likes to put words together. He liked to read philosophy, gung fu and a lot of boxing books. He had paperback gung fu books from China. There’s a place in Seattle that’s out of business now where he used to go two or three times a week looking for books. And he spent a lot of time in the library looking at books. It was research combined with an outrageous amount of practice. People think that you can just sit back and philosophize and become a super martial artist – that’s not possible. You have to train, train, train, get disgusted and train, train and train more.

Q: Did he ever talk to you about what career path he wanted to pursue after finishing his studies at the university?

Jesse Glover: He wanted to make a lot of money. He wanted to be famous.

Q: Before meeting and training with Bruce, you dabbled in boxing and judo. Because of the typical full contact training employed in these two arts, did you not find these two arts to be more effective than the wing chun system that Bruce was teaching?

Jesse Glover: I found Bruce to be more effective! He modified the system. I did boxing a little bit and studied judo and won a lot of tournaments, which were totally different things. I thought what he was teaching was a lot more effective and that’s why I started practicing it. And it had unique qualities about it, which boxing didn’t have. I always liked judo because of its underlying philosophy, which was maximum effectiveness with minimum effort. It was to cultivate yourself in terms of speed and power when you’re going in close and just training [in general]. I demonstrated with Bruce in Seattle and several times on television in Canada. Bruce had studied boxing a little bit in Hong Kong. His primary teacher, Wong Shun Leung, had studied boxing. One of the last things he said to Bruce when he left Hong Kong was to watch out for the boxers.

Bruce didn’t know much about judo, but I took him to the Seattle Judo Club and I showed him some stuff and introduced him to a guy named Fred Sato, who was a black belt. They became pretty good friends. Actually, I think Fred is the one who introduced him to the five ways of attack. He liked judo but the only problem he said was, “How do you get hold of the guy?” When he was going to the University of Washington, he also took a judo class from one of my teachers, Kato, who was a US 180-pound champion. Bruce definitely would not go to the ground if he had the opportunity to get you standing up. When he was here in Seattle, he had a lot of books on martial arts and there were some Chinese books on jiu- jitsu. He showed them to me and looked at a few of those things, but I don’t think Bruce was really a grappler at that time.

Q: Bruce utilized the wooden dummy to perfect his phenomenal skills, did you often witness him work his ‘magic’ on this unique piece of training equipment?

Jesse Glover: Bruce had a dummy set up behind Ruby Chow’s [restaurant] and he worked on it in the afternoon before the restaurant people came in. He would practice entries and different stuff. He showed me stuff on the dummy. He didn’t know all the dummy form – later on I talked to a guy who knew Wong [Shun Leung] and he said Bruce knew only 60 percent of the dummy. But the dummy taught him how to close the distance, engage the opponent and to punch over and in between the guy’s structure.

Q: What unique or unusual training methods did Bruce implement into his workouts? Am I right in saying you witnessed him do a barbell exercise where he would hold it out in front of the chest to cultivate his forearms?

Jesse Glover: He used to hold a barbell weighing 70 pounds across his forearms to work his forearms, his shoulders and his wrists. And he used to do sil lam tao. He would do sil lam tao 50 times with his muscles contracted, kind of following Charles Atlas’ program for development, which are exercises you do with your muscles tensed. He did a lot of exercises right out of the basic wing chun. He did a lot with hand weights and pulleys. He used to have these pulleys attached to the wall and he could pull them overhand or underhand and actually punched outwards. He did a lot of pushups with various weights. Bruce would have you sitting on his shoulders and stuff like that when performing these.

Q: Was Bruce starting to integrate these exercises and specialized equipment at an early stage of his arrival in America, or was it much later in his development when he moved down to Southern California?

Jesse Glover: Even in Hong Kong he was using some strength training exercises and he just experimented when he came to the United States. Things that worked the forearms and gymnast push-ups. He would sit on a table and push up on the table. In a movie theater he would push up against the seat. The whole time he was exercising.

Q: Why do you think Bruce broke tradition by investigating other arts? At the time a lot of martial arts instructors did not want to teach foreigners.

Jesse Glover: He started modifying stuff when he came to the United States. He got into trouble with an older man who did not like the fact that he was teaching foreigners. He broke tradition in Seattle, for sure. Ruby Chow – who owned the restaurant where he worked and lived – didn’t like the fact he was teaching foreigners. She said, “You’re teaching black guys this and that. They’re going to beat up on Chinese.” He said, “Well, they can beat up on Chinese anyway. So, if I teach them they’re going to have some respect for Chinese.” Yeah, he was the first Chinese who was teaching non-Chinese. This was, of course, in Seattle, but I don’t know what was going on in California, Hawaii or other places. I heard later that there were some guys in the military who had been in China before the Second World War who actually studied gung fu. So it wasn’t like I was the first non-Chinese to do so historically.

Q: Did you ever witness Bruce in an actual incident?

Jesse Glover: We were doing a demonstration at a school and a guy in the audience had a problem. Bruce was telling everyone that gung fu is a soft style and karate is a hard style. He challenged Bruce. Bruce asked us if he should do something about the challenge, but we told him to forget it, that it wasn’t worth the time. The guy was a judo practitioner, but also a black belt in karate. I used to practice judo against the guy and I could throw him, but he had a hard time throwing me. He saw Bruce doing a demonstration of another style and thought that’s how Bruce would fight.

So he kept challenging him until one day he sent another stupid guy over and issued a challenge. Bruce and I were at school. When I came out of the door, he told me to go tell the guys to meet him on the third floor. I told him, “We can’t fight here in the school.” So he said we’d do this at the Y Club. So the fight was set up. We got the bus and went to the Y. The guy put on his gi and Bruce took off his shirt. I was the referee and Ed was the timer. The fight was supposed to stop after three rounds. The guy got in a cat stance and threw a kick. Bruce blocked the kick, got the guy on the floor, bounced him off the wall and kept hitting him and chased him. I hollered stop! The fight lasted 11 seconds.

Q: He didn’t like the format of competition fighting, did he?

Jesse Glover: He didn’t like competition, but he did have some fights where there were no referees and no judges. People talk about competitions, but when they’ve got people to stop you, it’s not really a competition. Competition is two guys going in a room and one of them walks out.

Q: When Bruce became famous and a global name after his movies were released, did you keep in touch with him?

Jesse Glover: No. The last time I saw Bruce was at a birthday party when he and Linda were staying at Linda’s mother’s house. I hadn’t seen him for a while. We spent the whole time in the basement talking while they were having a party upstairs. Then I saw him when Brandon was born. He brought him over to my house. Then after that I didn’t see him anymore.

I had a conversation with him after his fight with Wong Jackman. Bruce, James Lee and Linda were training in their gym [in Oakland] and some guys showed up wearing gung fu uniforms. He said to me that at first he thought he was going to fight all these guys, but it turned out it was just him against Wong Jackman. So they squared off and he attacked the guy, and the guy almost turned and ran away. But as he was going back, Bruce was hitting him in the back of his head and the punches were going in the same direction as he was going in. So it wasn’t having a very good effect. Bruce was running out of gas, but he knocked him down and pinned him. The guy agreed that it was over. And that propelled him to start his roadwork training. He never thought he’d run out of gas but he did. Then after that incident a lot of people said he started literally studying boxing, but he was studying boxing long before this incident. Boxing wouldn’t have made him chase this guy any quicker.

Q: Do you think he was trying to express and propagate some sort of philosophical message using this medium?

Jesse Glover: Yes, there was a message. In fact, I’m surprised martial arts exponents haven’t followed his patterns because Bruce got his patterns using samurai movies. We used to practice and after that we would go to Ruby Chow’s, then to the movies where we watched samurai and Chinese movies. And in Chinatown we spent time doing different things. Yeah, I thought his movies were pretty cool. Bruce was a movie star when he was a kid long before he was a movie star as an adult. So I wasn’t surprised.

Q: Bruce remains a pop culture icon to this day, how much of an impact do you think he has had on the world?

Jesse Glover: Bruce has had a lot of impact on the world. Time magazine picked him for their top 100 influential people. He’s had a tremendous impact. Some guys have a positive impact on people.

Q: After Bruce’s death what path did you take and pursue?

Jesse Glover: In 1961, I went to Bruce and said, “James Demile and I would like to start teaching.” And Bruce said, “That’s fine, as long as you don’t call it jun fan or wing chun.” Later, the jeet kune do term came from a guy in Seattle who said they used to call it ‘Intercepting Fist’. And before he went to California, he was toying with the idea. The only reason he modified his style was because he was always looking for ways to catch up with his seniors back in Hong Kong. He would have kept on changing stuff.

Q: In Bruce’s book Chinese Gung Fu: The Philosophical Art of Self Defense you are seen demonstrating a few judo moves. What was he trying to achieve with the publication of the book?

Jesse Glover: He was trying to make money. James Lee told him that if he wrote a book he could probably make money. At the time, Bruce didn’t have any money when he was working at Ruby Chow’s, so that’s why he did it. The book was OK. A lot of the stuff in there was staged, like the throwing, which I did myself. At the time, I didn’t think I would spend five dollars on the book. He did trapping and striking, so he wanted to know what else I did and I told him judo. He was exchanging martial arts information with this other guy, too.

Q: Can you recall any funny incident taking place during your close friendship with Bruce?

Jesse Glover: Well, the funny incident was where I couldn’t hit him.

Q: Anything you would like to add, Jesse, about your friendship with Bruce and how he has enriched your life?

Jesse Glover: He influenced everybody who studied with him. And even today many, many years later, those people who are still alive are strongly influenced by Bruce. Some of the guys are gone. Skip Ellsworth died. I think he was probably Bruce’s third or fourth student. He died in the Philippines. Charlie Woo died. Pat Hooks, I don’t know what happened to him, he disappeared and I don’t know if he’s still alive. John Jackson died from a heart attack. Ed Hart recently died. Howard Hall disappeared, nobody heard from him. Taky Kimura is still around. Leroy Garcia is still around and James Demile is still around but is crippled. That’s about it. Doug Palmer was the one guy who went to Hong Kong with Bruce. Bruce enriched my life. When Bruce said he could do something, he’d do it. A lot of people say they can do stuff, but really can’t do it. Anything that Bruce said he could do, he could do it! So that impressed me.

JAMES DEMILE

James W. Demile was part of the inner circle of Bruce Lee’s students from the Seattle period who trained with him privately. Demile, who forged a close friendship with Lee, had an impressive boxing background before meeting and joining the close-knit group that Bruce trained during his early years in the US. After Bruce’s death, Demile continued to spread the word globally, basing his system – which he refers to as the ‘Tao of Wing Chun Do’ – on the teachings and principles of his late master’s original system. He became an unarmed combat instructor in Special Forces Combatives during the 1980s, and won over 100 fights in the Air Force’s boxing program.

Q: How did you first meet Bruce Lee?

James Demile: In late 1959, I was attending a public school for adults who had not finished high school. Bruce had been expelled from a Catholic private high school in Hong Kong and needed to earn make-up credits in order to get into the University of Washington. I had quit school in order to go into the Air Force and also needed additional credits. One day, during a free period, I noticed that there was a lot of activity in the auditorium and stopped to look at the bulletin board to see what was going on. It was a special event for the different Asian countries to demonstrate aspects of their culture. It sounded interesting so I went in and sat in the back.

There was a young Chinese kid leaping around the stage making weird noises, kicking and punching into the air. He was extremely agile, graceful and his movements flowed from one to another without any interruption. His final burst of energy was a high spinning kick where he reached forward and slapped his foot and then landed in an odd-looking stance that reminded me of a tiger getting ready to attack. He paused and then went on to explain that there were many forms in Chinese gung fu and this one was called jeet kune, and that they were all very effective methods of self-defense. I thought that this was amusing, since I had been an undefeated heavyweight boxer in the military and had been brought up in an orphanage where fighting was an everyday event. To me, fighting was a lot more involved than leaping around as if you were fighting butterflies. This kid had a lot to learn about what fighting was really like. After his demonstration I went up to join a small group that was talking to the kid. The kid was pawing and poking at the air while bobbing and weaving like a drunken monkey. I must have shown my disbelief because the kid stopped and looked at me with a curious smile. He asked if I had any questions. I quickly told him that here in America fighting was not a game, and that all his fancy moves would not work against a fast street fighter. His smile vanished and he moved in front of me and asked if I would throw a punch at him.

For a moment I was speechless. I couldn’t believe he was serious. He was 5ft 7 and about 135 pounds. I was 5ft 10 and 225 pounds. But I suddenly realized he was serious and that everyone was looking at me for a response. Feeling totally confident, I said OK and dropped back into a loose boxer’s stance. He stood there, relaxed, with both arms hanging by his side. I thought I would tap him lightly on the forehead with my jab, which should impress him with my speed and control. I fired a quick jab with my left.

The next few moments were my first steps to learning humility. In a blink, the kid exploded into action, not only blocking my punch, but yanking my body towards the floor, engaging my right arm and interlocking it with my left so I felt like a pretzel. It was an odd feeling. I could not move. He had trapped both my arms and grounded me so I could not kick or even take a step. He smiled, tapped me on the forehead as if to ask, Is anyone home, and then he released his pressure and stepped back. This was my introduction to Bruce Lee. I immediately joined the small group he was training with.

Q: Why did Bruce modify his early fighting style?

James Demile: There were two reasons Bruce modified his wing chun. The first was to be able to beat his seniors in wing chun. After training a while in the States, Bruce returned to Hong Kong and found he had made no progress in his wing chun skills. Frustrated, he decided he would train harder. So he focused on his students getting better so they would force him to get better. After a while he, once again, returned to Hong Kong and the results were the same. Bruce finally realized that the problem was not in his training, but what he was training in. No matter how hard he trained, his seniors were also training and therefore would always stay ahead of him. The only way he could beat them, he decided, was to improve what he was doing. He needed to take his wing chun to another level.

The second reason for modifying his wing chun was that the Westerners were bigger and stronger than him – and so, once they learned the basics of wing chun, they could become a real threat to him. Bruce became very selfish in his personal training. He would explore efficient fighting concepts with different students, never really teaching everyone the same thing. He said, “If you want to learn, you must take it,” because he was not going to give it to you.

He admitted that he was not interested in us getting good, as much as using us to get good himself. This is why there is such a big difference in the original Seattle group, the jun fan group and the JKD group. The original group was trained during Bruce’s fighting and creative period. The second group was during Bruce’s need to become independent and earn some money, when he created a style to teach called jun fan. The third group was his Hollywood period where he wanted to become a movie star, so his emphasis was on more visual techniques, including high kicks and more graphic motion.

Q: How did Bruce conduct his early classes with the original group?

James Demile: Bruce’s initial teaching was without structure or any set goals. We were not a club and nor did we have specific training times. We did meet after school and train, but we also trained during school, after going to Chinatown and eating or after going to a movie at the KoKasai theater where we would watch Asian martial art films. Bruce would go to my apartment and we would talk and train. Actually, the real reason he went to my apartment was to use my phone to make long distance calls. But the training there was invaluable to me since we talked a lot about principles and concepts that were later to become the basis for wing chun do. He would also go to Jesse Glover’s or Leroy Garcia’s place and train. Each one of us had something different to challenge him with and he would squeeze anything of value from us.

The main focus to Bruce’s training was what interested him at that moment. We never knew what we were going to train in, or how long we would train on any one technique. Bruce was always exploring and experimenting. You had to pay close attention to what he said or did since he was really talking to himself. Once he discovered an effective technique he would train in it till he was confident in his application, and regardless of our skill level he would never teach it again.

Q: Did Bruce ever do any wrestling when he was in Seattle?

James Demile: I do not remember Bruce doing any wrestling in the early years, at least up to 1963. He believed judo was essential for good coordination training. But he was very adamant about not going to the ground. He felt that ground fighting was very dangerous and difficult to be in total control. He did not believe in ‘luck’ as an element of fighting. He always wanted to be in total control of each situation.

Q: You were an undefeated heavyweight boxer. There is a world of difference between applying movements with an obedient partner who cooperates and an actual opponent who is bent on hurting you with full contact blows. Did you not find Bruce’s style to be inferior to a full contact fighting form such as boxing?

James Demile: I boxed in the Air Force and Bruce boxed in high school, in Hong Kong. He was very good as a natural boxer with little training. Yet, oddly enough, when it came down to what to keep and what to remove from boxing, Bruce said throw it all out. After thinking about it, it made sense. Springy footwork, jabbing, combinations, bobbing and weaving and even slipping were all inefficient when it came down to Bruce’s rules of simplicity, efficiency and practicality. All boxing principles were in conflict with the solid stability of the closed bai-jong, footwork, the constant offensive/defensive potential of both arms. At the same time when using the centerline concept and the awesome power of the power line concept for use of energy in trapping and striking, it made sense.

Once I understood his meaning, I threw out all my boxing knowledge and have not regretted it for a moment.

At the same time, Bruce was a natural athlete and was good at any sport he tried. He explored many styles of fighting, yet remained loyal to certain underlying principles from wing chun. He felt that although the overall wing chun principles needed to be changed, the root of the art was still valid. His movements and applied chi sao and trapping became more refined and efficient, yet you could see a strong wing chun influence.

Q: Muhammad Ali and Bruce Lee are both iconic figures. Did he ever talk to you about Ali?

James Demile: Bruce really admired Muhammad Ali, Floyd Patterson and Jack Dempsey. He thought their techniques were really good. He felt in the ring they would beat him, but in the street he would beat them because of what he could do with no rules. In other words, he could do trapping, kicking, anything, whereas in boxing you have rules and it’s really just a different type of martial art altogether. Bruce felt that if he went into a sports situation there was a good chance he would get beat. He felt really confident that no one could beat him in the street. A lot of people think what you do in the ring is what you would do in the street. That’s not true at all. In competition the mentality is different and it’s a sport. People just don’t understand the difference between sport and street fighting. But Bruce did and didn’t want to waste his time.

Q: Do you feel because you and some of the other students Bruce taught in Seattle had a street fighting background this helped Bruce in his development?

James Demile: I think that Bruce was extremely lucky to have us guys who were street fighters, bigger and meaner than him, because it challenged him and always forced him to get better. All of us would have liked to punch him out. And no matter how we tried, it didn’t work because he was always getting better than us. He was always working on how to overcome my boxing background or Jesse’s karate and judo background. He was always examining all the different ways to overcome our skills. So, if he did not have that sort of challenge and threat of forcing him to get better, I don’t think he would have got as good as he did. He would have just stayed a wing chun exponent.

Q: Bruce Lee’s contribution to mankind far exceeds the simple confines of the martial arts world. Was Bruce Lee a philosopher or a warrior?

James Demile: I believe that Bruce’s early years were focused on the physical rather than on the philosophical. He quoted many philosophers, but I think it was for the effect it had on us rather than a deep interest in philosophy. He was amused at how Americans were so impressed with profound statements, even when no one understood what the statement meant. Bruce was young and had dreams of becoming famous. He also realized that in order to achieve his goal of becoming an actor, director and producer, he must be unique and different from any other Chinese kid. He had no skills other than martial arts, so he decided to commit 100 percent of his energy to becoming the best. This would be his pathway to stardom. I think he became more serious about the philosophical side as he got older and saw the need to balance out his image as a martial artist. The TV program Kung Fu influenced him as far as how people reacted to the internal as well as the external aspects of martial arts. So, a lot more philosophical sayings appeared in his writings.

Q: Can you recall any street incidents you witnessed Bruce in during the time you knew and trained with him?

James Demile: Bruce didn’t fight unless he had to. He used to take Sherry Garcia, Leroy’s wife, dancing. Bruce had won a Cha Cha contest in Hong Kong and loved to dance. This story was told to me by Sherry. One evening Bruce was in Chinatown with Sherry and four guys approached them and made racist remarks about the Chinaman with the blonde chick. Bruce went ballistic and was going to kill all four of them. Sherry grabbed him and made him walk away. Those guys were unaware of having death visit them and then walk away.

At school there was a karate guy from Japan who did not like Bruce and felt Bruce was all talk and no action. He would always bug Bruce with mean looks and snide statements. Bruce would ask us if he should fight him and we would always say no. However, one day Bruce snapped and told the guy, “OK, let’s fight!” They agreed to go downtown to the YMCA handball court and see who would walk out first. Jesse was the referee and Ed was the timekeeper. I was not there, but Ed told me the next day how the guy started out with a kick to Bruce’s groin. Bruce swept the kick aside and double punched the guy in the face and drove him across the court, bounced him off the wall and then smashed him with both fists. The guy crumpled to the floor. Ed thought he was dead. Finally the guy moved. It lasted 11 seconds. Bruce was not touched. Many of the incidents at that time were just moments in time. People would want to test Bruce, but Bruce would just trap and let them know he was in control.

I personally experienced the hard side of Bruce’s fist a few times when he needed to demonstrate his skills. Once in a while we would meet at Taky Kimura’s grocery store just prior to training. On this particular day, we were just hanging out doing loose practicing when one of the students walked in with his girlfriend. One thing about Bruce, he loved to demonstrate his skills. If a pretty girl was anywhere near, Bruce would perk up and start his spontaneous demo. In this case he would point at me and explain how fast and tough I was, and then promptly knock me over, under and through all the vegetables in sight. Honestly, I tried to hit him. I would have loved to have knocked him out in front of everyone. He knew this, so he enjoyed watching me disappear into the cabbage pile.

Q: Bruce Lee never entered competitions. Can you elaborate on this?

James Demile: Well, the first thing and reason is that he felt if at any time you have rules, it automatically limited what you could do. In other words, the person fighting you knew something, therefore it wasn’t like a street fight where you as quickly as possible have to hurt the person and get it over with. Bruce never entered tournaments with rules versus street fighting, which is survival – he was only interested in survival. He wasn’t interested in competition because he felt that it didn’t prove anything. He said that anytime you play by rules it automatically restricts you in what you can do. He didn’t like that. Remember, this was back in the ’60s when there weren’t many tournaments going on. We had mainly judo tournaments and a few karate tournaments. Bruce couldn’t relate to those because they were just sport. So, it wasn’t like he was relating to martial arts as we think of it today. It’s really different if you look back at the ‘60s because there were only judo and karate tournaments you could enter as far as how good you were. So it wasn’t like MMA.

Q: In the Los Angeles area a lot of karate champions worked out with Bruce. One of them has gone on to say Bruce never really sparred. What is your opinion on this?